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Fact check: Disney has ruined stall The Disney Plus shows are the worst thing to happen to Disney Screaming wave defense after woman by How did all this happen disney started out as a mere animation studio but following a sensational rise in expansion has become one of the largest media conglomerates in the world being blamed for the downfalls of Star Wars Marvel and various other franchises and studios that they've either mismanaged or just neglected completely And there's such a hefty list of criticisms that well they have an entire very long Wikipedia page dedicated to the controversies and criticisms of the Walt Disney Company For me and I assume most people when I hear the name Disney I still think of this illustrious history of animation And at just over a 100 years old they are the longest running animation studio in the world Most of their competitors were founded 70 80 years after them But I was just sat here thinking right now I'm not sure Disney animation cracked the top five studios in the world Obviously that's just my opinion But if you look at some of what the other studios are doing they're innovating experimenting with new animation styles and telling what I consider to be genuinely really good stories And for me Disney isn't I mean I guess Wish looked kind of different but like it didn't serve a purpose that it looked different It felt like they were just making it look different for the sake of having it to look different because you know that's what everyone else is doing Like you're saying this was meant to be their landmark 100year anniversary animation movie Okay I don't want to just randomly go in on Wish 15 months too late I hope it resonated with people more than it did with me And I don't want to spend this video just going through all their recent projects and randomly cherry-picking numbers to try and prove a point Oh this movie did very badly No one watched this hugely expensive Disney Plus show and look at their stock price right now You know I don't believe that Disney are this falling empire a few years away from bankruptcy and irrelevancy There are still things they are succeeding at And while there are many things in this video I'm going to criticize them on there are also a lot of things that I think they are still doing well Ultimately I want to tackle the bigger question How did Disney lose the essence of what made Disney Disney like I feel like over the years they've carefully branded and marketed the word Disney so that we associate it with magic And this has been upheld through years of imaginative storytelling taking us to places we didn't think possible And again I don't think they've completely stopped doing that Anyone who has spoken to a child under the age of four in the last 10 years will know the absolute grip the princesses especially Elsa have around young children today And if Elsa doesn't just scream like the epitome of Disney magic I don't know what does but it all feels so much more corporate than it used to And because of that we're more aware of Disney's misgivings than we were before And I'm not trying to say that there hasn't always been controversy around every decision Disney has ever made because there has but it's all just become so much more politicized in recent years as they try and have their cake and eat it too You know like there's a black man John Bagger is the lead in the new Star Wars movie except not in China There isn't There's a gay couple in a Pixar movie but the movie did badly and that must have been white right so we're removing all LGBT representation from our upcoming show story line They've been making all these female focused movies around feminist characters while they're being taken to court over gender-based discrimination in the workplace and paying a $43 million settlement outside of court so it doesn't get any more media attention All while making their entire company strategy to subscribe to Disney Plus Subscribe and never unsubscribe or else something bad might happen to you Now I can't pretend to be Disney Plus's biggest hater I have complained about it before but I also remember how excited I was for it when it came out especially at the start of the pandemic But I remember when I first bought Disney Plus I got an annual subscription for £59.99 I just checked and it is autorenewing next week at the time of recording this video for £129 And I've converted that into dollars for you Americans That is $160 I'm sorry uh 117% price hike for what these original Marvel and Star Wars TV shows that they throw straight on the platform like Secret Invasion and The Acolyte which admittedly I haven't actually watched either of But I also have no interest in watching these shows and I as a Marvel and Star Wars fan should want to watch them They should be seen as unmissable and visually stunning which they're just not Anyway I am getting off topic I am not making this video to rant about Disney and like many people watching this video would consider myself to be a fan of Disney Their movies really helped shape my childhood And still to this day for complete transparency I have a good working relationship with Disney They've invited me and I've attended many movie and TV show premiieres And I've also done paid work with them before And I have always had a good experience I have far more positive memories with Disney than I have negative opinions of them But I also want to get down to the bottom of what has happened and how and why Disney has lost its magic And I think to start we need to go back to the beginning back in 1937 when they released their first featurelength animated movie the historic Snow White and the Seven Dwarves And following this they pretty much dominated the western animation world for over 60 years They were supreme undisputed Their competition wasn't getting close to the heights they were reaching Because of this Snow White didn't just become the highest grossing film of all time but following its re-releases over the decades it wasn't replaced as the highest grossing animated movie of all time until 1993 when it was actually replaced by Disney's own Aladdin And that's not to say that Snow White was their sole successful animated movie at the time either They made several other movies over the decades that made hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office And you just to put into context how far ahead of their competition they were from 1937 to 1985 in every year where Disney released an animated movie that movie went on to be the most successful animated movie at the box office in said year You know there are a few years here and there where they released more than one animated movie So not all of their movies are on this list and also many years where they didn't release anything So other movies achieved the title But this was a streak of 22 movies covering almost 50 years until finally the Care Bears outgrossed the Black Cauldron in 1985 For anyone thinking this marked the end of Disney's era of dominance slightly off the mark which officially brings us to the '90s or more commonly known as the Disney Renaissance They just released hit after hit after hit after hit And I'm assuming for most people watching this video like me these would have been the movies you grew up on and they probably had a major influence on your childhood building such a reputation for Disney that I would say they've almost become posted noted a term that I've literally just made up to basically say that Disney movie has almost become a generic trademark which is what happens when a brand name becomes so commonly used that you just start using it instead of the actual name You see this is actually called a sticky note Post-it is the brand But more often than not we just call these Post-it notes And I found when you're talking to people especially those who don't know that much about animated movies they often just refer to animated movies as Disney movies Many years ago I kind of went insane just screaming at a camera in my bedroom over the fact that people on Twitter thought that Shrek a movie literally making fun of Disney was a Disney movie This is the reason why And to be fair I do believe it happens a lot less now which is what I'm going to get into But I just wanted to bring it up to really drill home how big Disney's reputation was in the Western Animation world So what's happened and to continue on the story we need to get into how Disney created their own nemesises I'm not sure if that's a real word but it's meant to be the plural of nemesis So let me introduce you to the main players in this story starting with John Lacitta Now I do want to preface any statements I make about this man by firstly saying in November 2017 he was accused of workplace sexual misconduct Accusations he has acknowledged describing as missteps And the fact that he is still working in film and making movies to this day I think sets a really bad precedent for the animation industry However before he became the so-called king of animation who's above the law he was working as an animator for Disney in the 1970s And following working on their movie Tron and the new computer animation technology used in it he became obsessed with this dream of making the first ever computer animated feature film And this was something he tested while at Disney showing it was possible using the characters from Maurice Sax Where the Wild Things Are However this endeavor didn't please the high-er-ups at Disney They saw it as a waste of time and resources leading to him getting fired in 1983 off the back of it officially creating their first nemesis You see John Lacet's dream didn't die He wanted to make the first ever computer animated feature film and that led to him joining the Lucasfilm computer graphics group which eventually went on to become Pixar And after around 10 years of making ads in short films finally the first ever fully computer animated feature film directed and written by John Lacitta came to be Toy Story was a massive success arguably the greatest leap forward in the history of the animation medium changing the landscape forever But once again if you thought this was the end of Disney's dominance you're still missing the mark Because if you go to watch Toy Story what is the first thing you see a Disney logo Yes Despite the fallout and firing of John Lester all those years earlier when Pixar actually set out to make their first ever feature film they needed funding and a distributor And suddenly Disney were back in the picture And I know that technically Toy Story isn't a Disney movie but also technically no one cares I do not believe the average person knows the difference between a Disney and a Pixar movie And matter of fact I've gone out and put this to the test before They don't Also as someone who has been that guy before if you are arguing with someone who doesn't know much about animation movies that Toy Story isn't a Disney movie It is not a good use of anyone's time No one is getting anything out of that conversation Just let it go okay it doesn't matter It really isn't that important And the point is not only did The Rise in Pixar failed to defrone Disney but they actually ended up getting almost all of the credit for it due to this distribution agreement they agreed with them back in 1991 And who was the man that brokered this deal you might be wondering the Disney chairman at the time none other than Jeffrey Katzenberg the second player in this story You see Jeffrey Katzenberg as chairman of Disney oversaw the beginning of their Renaissance the launch of the Disney Channel and so many other successful productions you might not have even known were by Disney And my understanding is that Jeffrey Katzenberg didn't really feel like he was getting the credit he deserved He wanted a promotion He wanted to be the president of Disney something to make a long story short never happened which caused Jeffrey Katzenberg to leave Disney in 1994 And he sued them as well They agreed to a settlement outside of court for $250 million creating their second nemesis You see in the same year with Steven Spielberg and David Jeffin he founded DreamWorks another company most well known for their computer animated feature films a major competitor for Disney And they came straight out the gate all guns blazing Their first movie in October 1998 was called Ants a movie about an ant who is tired of life in his little antill and dreams of being more than that and goes on an adventure This was literally released a month before Pixar released A Bug's Life a movie also about an ant who's tired of his life and his little antill and dreams of being more than that and goes on an adventure Now was there foul play involved here and did Jeffrey Katzenberg actually know about A Bug's Life from his time at Disney and intentionally made this movie right before to spite them it's unconfirmed and I'm not taking a stance because I have no interest in getting sued However it does contribute to one of my favorite stats of all time that in 1998 66.6% of computer animated movies were about bugs If it was a pie chart that's like this large chunk is about bugs However I think it's fair to say that Ants wasn't the movie that established DreamWorks as a main player in the game That movie wasn't going to come for a few more years when they released Shrek a movie that requires no discussion about whether it was made to spite Disney And it has spun off sequels spin-offs a theme park attraction a musical and is the first ever fully animated feature film not by Disney to be preserved by the US National Film Registry And in the years that followed as computer animation technology became cheaper and more widely available more and more competitors arose Another group that was actually hired to work on the 3D animation in Trumon back in the 80s went on and formed Blue Sky Studios which actually was bought out by 20th Century Fox where they produce their own animated movies Universal launched Illumination creating what is now the most successful animated franchise of all time at the box office And at the time of recording this video there is a Chinese animation studio that's just released a movie called Nija 2 I hope I pronounced that right Which has just broken into the top five of all time at the box office comfortably clearing every animated movie Disney's ever made I'm getting ahead of myself The point is pretty much everyone has an animation studio now And also anyone could just make an animation movie in the comfort of their own home now The technology is there And to return to my initial point I don't think Disney are close to being the best at it anymore And considering that's all they were known for for years it almost feels like they've lost part of their identity which is what brings us to the rebrand Fasting forward to about 2018 2019 I think Disney intentionally rebranded themselves changing this perception of what Disney means yet going from this magical movie studio we all knew and love and grew up with to the Disney company that we know today And I am absolutely convinced this was an intentional rebrand And while there's maybe an argument that this rebrand was initially forced on them specifically through buying the biggest film franchise in the world in 2012 in Star Wars but I still think we've seen an actual change in strategy Like you got to keep in mind this is a massive company with entire divisions consisting of thousands of people purely dedicated to their marketing and branding And I believe their goal has been to make this company more than just associated with familyfriendly animated films 10 to 15 years ago I don't think people knew about all the stuff that Disney owned which is why maybe the acquisition of Star Wars was like this awakening to Disney being this major media conglomerate You like Disney the media conglomerate awakens But also on top of that I would say ownership of Star Wars has brought so much more negative press to Disney that wasn't there before Now the quality of Disney Star Wars movies is not a can of worms I'm interested in getting into today The far more interesting thing I would like to talk about is my memory of seeing The Force Awakens in cinemas in 2015 I was 17 years old I looked like this My parents weren't into Star Wars so I never got to see the prequels in cinemas as a kid This was my first time getting to see a Star Wars movie in cinemas And I still remember sitting there being confused as to why there wasn't a Disney logo before the film I knew Disney had bought Star Wars and this movie was being made by Disney And usually when a company makes a movie they put their logo before that movie right but no with Star Wars: The Force Awakens you actually had to sit through two hours and 17 minutes of this movie before Disney is even acknowledged for their involvement with this film right at the end of the credits I've covered this It's common place for the distribution company to put their logo before the film Toy Story has the Disney logo at the start So do all subsequent Pixar movies But then it's the same with Marvel Disney acquired Marvel Studios in 2009 and have been distributing their movies in the MCU since the first Avengers movie in 2012 Is there a Disney logo before it nope There's not a Disney logo before any of the Marvel movies which is so funny and kind of ironic because if you watch Iron Man you'll get a Paramount logo before it If you watch any of the Spider-Man movies you'll get a Sony logo before it Disney has been actively hiding their association with these movies And you have to conclude this is intentional So why well I assume it's because they liked their brand They liked being associated with these familyfriendly animated magical movies So they're more than happy to be at the start of a Pixar movie It fits their brand But for slightly more grown-up action movies by Marvel or Star Wars they just want to sit back profiting off it in the hopes that no one associates it with them not really taking any credit for it and not get blamed if it goes wrong That didn't really work out but I assume that's the strategy which is bringing us to the change in strategy or the rebrand which I am getting to But first I just want to clarify that more mature movies aren't particularly new to Disney Like they've been making R-rated and PG-13 movies since the 80s They launched a studio called Touchstone Pictures in 1984 basically just to do this And they have released hundreds of famous movies under this label Yet not one of them has the Disney logo before it They always go straight in with the Touchstone Pictures logo But then you're probably thinking what about the more mature movies by Walt Disney Pictures themselves you know not by an in-house studio literally by Disney themselves But it's pretty well known that they make the Pirates of the Caribbean movies right and they're action movies They're PG-13 And you're right they're actually the first PG-13 movies that Walt Disney Pictures made this century And if you watch the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie there's no Disney logo at the start This is literally their own IP Pirates of the Caribbean is based off a ride at Disneyland that has been open since 1967 and they still won't put their own logo at the start Now I will concede that technically the later Pirates of the Caribbean movies and other PG-13 and art movies that Disney have made since this do have a Disney logo at the start But I also want to say that it's much less of a calculated risk when Pirates of the Caribbean had been a commercial success and was nominated for not one not two but in fact five Academy Awards I have looked into every single Disney expansion over the last 40 years and genuinely the only one that they have proudly slapped their name and logo on is Disney Channel which I guess is somewhat different to their animated movies but it's also outside of that probably the safest product they have And it's another one where I feel like they've almost been post-it noted again Like if someone says Disney show they're often just referring to a teen focused sitcom And I can prove this through the fact that if I asked you "What is your favorite Disney show?" You're probably not thinking of Grey's Anatomy right now And that isn't because Grey's Anatomy is no one's favorite show It's because you don't think of that as a Disney show Despite the fact Disney have owned ABC for the entire time that they have been running Grey's Anatomy like it is definitively a Disney show You will find it on Disney Plus or Hulu if you're in America The point is Disney have continually avoided association with the more mature brands that they own And that's what finally brings us to the rebrand which has actually gone to the point now where both The Simpsons and Marvel through Deadpool are acknowledging the Disney brand by name and making jokes about it But it is for Disney I believe this all started with Disney Animation's 2018 feature film Ralph Breaks the Internet You see there was a bit of a trend at the end of the 2010s where big blockbuster crossover movies basically just printed out their own money And this was something spearheaded by Disney with their Marvel movies in the MCU Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame are two of their highest grossing movies of all time for that reason And while I personally love these two movies and just phase three of the MCU generally it definitely got a bit too big for its own boots I think like pretty much every studio was taking two characters and putting them in a movie together in the hopes of creating their own cinematic universe and it just it got out of hand to be honest with you Which brings us to 2018 when Disney animation had a go at making a cinematic crossover movie in a way In Ralph Breaks the Internet we have Ralph and Vanelopey venturing into the internet and they go into the Disney website itself in a weird attempt to be meta And ultimately the main selling point here was through Vanilla meeting the Disney princesses and having a huge crossover with these iconic characters They even brought back the voice actors for the princesses with only Snow White Cinderella and Aurora being recast because the actors are either dead or retired You know it was a long time since those movies came out And you know at the end of the day I don't love the movie but I get why they tried it And I don't think it's the worst thing they've ever done or tried But it's also in this movie where for the first time they start to flaunt some of the other properties they own in our faces Like from the minute Vanelopey enters oh myd Disney.com we are overloaded with Disney characters references brand logos At one point there is a full almost minute long scene of people asking group questions about Marvel law which then gets followed up with a chase scene involving the Stormtroopers from Star Wars You're probably thinking "Who cares i don't even know if this movie made a profit It definitely underperformed what Disney was expecting for it This wasn't what announced to the world that Disney owned Marvel and Stars Also by this stage most people probably already knew and you're probably right but also for me it's more the fact that they did this in a Disney animation movie They were being meta They were talking about themselves as a company And every decision they've made from this moment has seemed to blur a line between Disney the magical animation studio and Disney the company But why and I think there are two main reasons for this Firstly we have the Disney parks brand expansions In 2019 Star Wars Galaxy's Edge opened at both Disney World Florida and Disneyland California And following on from this in 2021 Avengers Campus opened at Disneyland California with another one opening in Disneyland Paris in 2022 Opening these attractions among others would require people to associate Disney with Marvel and Star Wars And therefore a decision must have been made that they needed to have a deeper brand connection So therefore people would connect them in their head and buy tickets But then the end of the decade also marked the start of Disney's latest business venture Disney Plus In 2019 Disney launched their own streaming platform in an attempt to compete with the juggernaut of home entertainment that Netflix had become And a big selling point for this streaming service was that Disney owned all of the Star Wars properties and were the creators of the MCU This is significant because over the last decade these were the two biggest film franchises in the world with 13 of their movies combined grossing over a billion dollars at the box office with Marvel really pulling their weight to help me make this point Is that how me and Beyonce have 35 Grammys combined the point being that before this there wasn't a place where you could watch all the Star Wars or Marvel movies You know every now and again they showed up on a streaming service or I guess technically you could buy every individual copy and own all of them but now they were all going to be in one place and you don't even have to search them up They are right there This is still one of the first things you see when you open the Disney Plus app So obviously this was another reason why Disney wanted you to associate them with Marvel and Star Wars because it's a selling point for their streaming service that they own Marvel and Star Wars And as I've already said it's felt like it's been Disney's entire company strategy to try and get everyone to subscribe to Disney Plus for what it's felt like maybe the last 10 years And I understand this was before Disney Plus came out but I mean I'm questioning how long they've been planning this for And I'm starting to be convinced that their entire 2019 cinematic release schedule was just one big ad for Disney Plus I know this might sound like a ridiculous stretch but if you actually look at the roster of movies they released that year it's genuinely ridiculous And I just want to clarify here when I'm saying it's genuinely ridiculous I'm not talking about the quality of these movies I don't think it's relevant for the conversation And for me it's a bit of a mixed bag There's some I loved There's some that all right and there are others that I actively disliked The bigger point is if you're looking at the name brands and the titles that they were releasing that year it is genuinely ridiculous Like there are 10 movies that they released that year I think that grossed over a billion dollars at the box office And I say I think because I can't actually remember all of the movies that grossed a billion dollars at the box office for them that year Do you realize how ridiculous that is and the biggest of these was Avengers Endgame To this day Disney's most successful movie of all time the final movie in a 22 film long saga resulting in it becoming the highest grossing film of all time in 2019 until it was overtaken again by Avatar when it was re-released during the pandemic There was the final installment of their Star Wars sequel trilogy episode 9 a conclusion to what they're now dubbing the Skywalker Saga This is probably the most famous film saga in the world And I know it underperformed massively and not many people liked it but it's still undoubtedly a significant movie They gave it their December release spot Disney Animation released the sequel to Frozen at the time the most successful animated movie of all time and arguably their most successful Disney Princess brand ever They added another installment to the Toy Story franchise Pixar's biggest asset They made liveaction remakes of both Aladdin and The Lion King that they released within about 3 months of each other I know The Lion King isn't live action and is actually animated but they are calling it a live action remake And let's just say that is one of the reasons why it's one of the movies I actively dislike The point is this was basically every one of their biggest assets biggest projects being released within the space of a year all while they're promoting this upcoming streaming service where you can watch all of these projects and more coming out later this year Like this has to have been part of a strategy right anyway I feel like it's been a long time since I've actually sat down and spoken about Disney and the state of the film world on here And I mean the reason why is because every problem I have with Disney and the film world I feel like ends up coming back to Disney Plus and well other streaming services but today we're going to be focusing on Disney Plus I mean for starters I've been quite vocal over the pandemic over Disney's treatment of Pixar films Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a massive fan of Pixar And for a few years there basically every Pixar movie was just thrown straight on to Disney Plus even going as far to call them Disney Plus originals And I'm glad to say that Pixar movies are back in cinemas and are doing well at the box office And this shows I'm not alone in this And people will come out to see these movies in cinemas you know as long as they're good But then on the other side of the coin we're back to an older issue You see after a nice run of original movies by Pixar at the start of this decade which I genuinely really enjoyed following Inside Out 2's success there has been an announcement of Toy Story 5 Incredibles 3 and Cocoa 2 are all in production I just refuse to believe that the creative minds at Pixar want to be churning out sequels at this rate So that tells me it must be someone at Disney higher up telling them "Well the originals don't do as well so you're going to have to make more sequels." But I also just don't think that's fair because the originals they released over this decade didn't get a chance to perform Like Onward Soul Luca and Turning Red were all basically thrown straight onto Disney Plus None of these movies really got a run at the box office before Lightyear and Elemental I know these movies probably wouldn't have made the same amount as Inside Out too but how are you going to have more name brands that are going to be able to make this money in the future with sequels if you're not letting them make the originals in the first place that they can then turn into I don't know what point I'm trying to make here The point is there's more Pixar sequels coming Yay However I'll say the effect that Disney Plus has had on Pixar is nothing compared to the effect it's had on Marvel Studios I mean the last time I spoke about the MCU on here I was still caught up on the MCU I don't know anyone who's caught up on the MCU anymore And I'm saying that as someone who has seen every one of the phase 4 and phase 5 movies in cinemas including the Marvels and the new Hulk movie I mean sorry the Captain The Hulk movie But I don't feel like I understand what's happening anymore Like you need to be caught up on all of these Disney Plus shows to be completely clued in now and I kind of gave up on the Disney Plus shows maybe 3 years ago and there are six more of these shows coming out just this year Simply I am not making the time to watch all of that I didn't even know a show called Echko came out last year until writing this sentence in the script which I am now reading out in this video Also just by sheer numbers if they are turnurning out this many shows a year there is no way they are all going to be up to the mark Like this is pure quantity over quality while basically making a Disney Plus subscription a compulsory requirement to consume the MCU today And I just again refuse to believe this is the higher-ups at Marvel making these decisions This has to be on Disney I like a lot of people watch some of the earlier shows that came out onto Disney Plus and a lot of them don't even feel like they're meant to be TV shows They feel like movies that have been patted out and split into parts so they can be released week to week on Disney Plus as a TV show to promote the streaming service And you know what while we're at it let's talk about Star Wars because the last time I saw a Star Wars movie in cinemas I was 21 years old I am 27 now When did Star Wars become resigned to being a straight to Disney Plus franchise serious when did that happen and don't get me wrong I know there's a lot of people in the we don't need any more Star Wars right now camp and I understand that But for me Star Wars is a cinematic experience It's the perfect blockbuster I was actually talking earlier this video about the first time I got to see a Star Wars movie in cinemas Seeing the Star Wars logo pop up on screen that meant something to me Yet ironically now anytime you want to watch Star Wars you get a Disney logo in front of it Now I haven't watched every Star Wars show on Disney Plus I've seen a few of them and I really like a couple of them too And this isn't really relating to those but the ones I don't like and the ones I haven't seen I'm always just astounded when I compare the budget to the actual product Just to return back to my point about Marvel shows feeling like movies that were converted into TV shows Secret Invasion and The Acolyte both cost over $200 million That is more than most movies And it's not like they have 20hour long episodes that can kind of rationalize why it would have cost this much money These shows both have a runtime of around 4 hours Like I'm in awe trying to work out how they've spent hundreds of millions of dollars to make something that I genuinely don't even think looks that much better than some fan films I've seen That might be overly harsh but I always look at these shows and think they don't look great But I also can't put into words why And I've actually looked into this Why do the Star Wars shows on Disney Plus not look good there seems to be a similar sentiment from people online where people agree it doesn't look good but also can't specifically pinpoint what looks bad And I feel like maybe it's just because we're used to seeing Star Wars in cinemas and in movies and therefore with a TV budget which is apparently the same amount as an actual movie budget It just looks worse comparatively because it's being made for TV However an alternative argument I've seen is that maybe the shows look bad because the contents of the shows are bad You know like if you're really enjoying a show you get completely immersed in the universe and therefore you don't see the flaws and mistakes that are being made in production But when you're not enjoying something as much it's way more easy to nitpick at it And I actually think that makes a lot of sense The ones that I like more I see far less flaws in than the ones that I've watched one or two episodes and given up on because I don't think they look I just don't understand if you are going to spend $200 million on a TV show that's only like 4 hours long why it can't just be a movie People would have gone to see an Obi-Wan Kenobi Vader prequel just from brand name alone But no you're so scared of people unsubscribing from Disney Plus that it just had to be a TV show released week by week on there No more Star Wars movies Which actually that isn't entirely true There is a Star Wars movie scheduled and announced to come out next year The Mandalorian and Grou Another movie that requires a Disney Plus subscription to understand like who's going to go to this i probably me actually I I do want to see a Star Wars movie in cinemas I mean if it ever comes out there are more cancelled Star Wars movies under Disney than actual finished movies at this point So I genuinely refuse to believe that there has ever been this level of public indecisiveness and lack of planning for a major film franchise probably ever Yet somehow none of this still comes close to their treatment of Walt Disney Animation This is where it began This is what their reputation hinges on Think of all the classic movies they've made over the last hundred years Oh yeah They've basically remade all of them They have made almost 20 liveaction remakes now that don't bring anything new to the table Are basically sceneforcene remakes of the original movies except stripped of the imagination and creativity that can only be found within the animation medium And there's also that one liveaction animated remake prequel spin-off in Mufasa Lion King which I can only assume is a crowd favorite I feel like everyone has had the same collective experiences with the live action remakes Like when they did the first ones it was like "Oh okay." And now it's just like who is still watching these and I guess there is a small silver lining here that Snow White isn't doing well at the box office right now And I'm saying this cautiously because these movies often can have legs and do very well at the international box office But if they can't get their first and probably most famous movie ever to do well this era might actually be over So let's talk about the actual animation world What have they been up to recently uh Strange World Remember that no probably not You've probably never seen it Wish I've already gone in on that And Moana 2 Now I didn't like any of these movies Obviously that's just my opinion If you did like these movies I am genuinely happy for you I'm seeing that Moana 2 is doing really well at the box office and I'm sure there's a lot of kids that are going to grow up loving that movie And ultimately that's fine if that's what Disney want to be But it's never going to be a classic And just because they've had a bad run in movies doesn't mean they can't make classics anymore They have gone on bad runs for much longer than this before and come out the other side making classics once again The problem is Disney Plus's involvement Moana 2 when it was first announced back in December 2020 was not in fact Moana 2 It was Moana the series This was meant to be a 5 episode series coming out on Disney Plus And then suddenly on the year of its release it was announced actually Moana 2 is coming out to cinemas this year And for what it's worth I really went into this with an open mind I really wanted to enjoy Moana 2 I had actually a little outspoken opinion on the original Moana when it first came out and it's grown on me a little bit since then but I still don't think it holds up compared to the other Disney princess movies from the same time that I genuinely believe are great movies and could go down as classics I saw Moana 2 as a clean slate maybe finally a chance to get what everyone sees in this And it was a TV show You could literally pinpoint where these 20-minute episodes would have started and finished while watching it And they've just merged them together and called it a movie It's basically just one of those straight to home video sequels that they made compiled from episodes of TV shows that never came out back in the late '9s and early 2000s You know like similar to Cinderella 2 Dreams Come True and Tarzan and Jane I realize that is probably far too niche a reference for the average viewer but the point is that these movies when they were making them in the 90s and early 2000s were scraping the bottom of the barrel for their IP to just put something out there and they have just done the exact same thing again released it to cinemas and made a whole lot of money from it Anyway sorry I feel like I've ended up doing exactly what I said I wasn't going to do and got lost in a little bit of a rant here and I've forgotten why I made this video in the first place I don't want Disney to fail The contrary actually I just don't want them to continue down this path Again I could probably cherrypick numbers to prove that they're financially failing right now but it wouldn't be the whole truth There are going to be many areas where they're succeeding as well as the areas where they're failing And that isn't really the point Disney was an idea It was a concept larger than life And they were magic But recently this concept this idea has completely faded or at least has been fundamentally altered And not just for me There's an entire generation that are going to grow up not really knowing what Disney is in the same way that we grew up knowing what Disney is And I don't know I don't know if they can ever change this Maybe they can't Maybe they can't redefine it and rebrand and rediscover who they once were But at the very least if they're going to continue down this path I want them making headlines for the right reasons Disney has fixed Star Wars The MCU is back to its best The Walt Disney Company has right now Just to be clear all those headlines were fake I I made them up that this was just as a way to have like symmetry in the video And quickly before I finish I just want to extend a massive thank you to Kayla AC Maggie Jacob Jonathan Ben and Will for supporting me on Patreon If you want to check out my Patreon all the amazing awards I have over there make sure to look in the link in the description down below Anyway thank you so much for watching this video I hope you enjoyed it If you like this style please leave a like and subscribe and I will hopefully see you soon Yeah - Generated with https://kome.ai

Checked on April 30, 2025

1. Summary of the results

The analyses paint a complex picture of Disney's current challenges across multiple fronts:

  • Streaming Struggles: Disney+ has experienced its first-ever subscriber decline since launch, losing approximately 11.7 million subscribers globally [1], though the context is important - most losses were concentrated in India due to lost cricket rights [2].
  • Financial Concerns: The streaming platform has accumulated over $11.4 billion in operating losses and isn't expected to be profitable until late 2024 [3].
  • Animation Performance Decline: Recent Disney animated films like "Wish" ($237.9M) and "Strange World" ($74.7M) have significantly underperformed compared to previous hits like "Frozen II" ($1.45B) [4].

2. Missing context/alternative viewpoints

The original statement omits several crucial contextual elements:

  • Geographic Nuance: While overall subscribers declined, the U.S. and Canada markets actually saw some growth of 200,000 subscribers [2], suggesting regional variations in Disney+'s performance.
  • Historical Perspective: Disney's animation dominance has been remarkable - they've topped the highest-grossing animated film list 32 times [5], making current struggles more notable in context.
  • Global Competition: The rise of international animation, exemplified by Ne Zha 2's $2.1 billion performance [5], suggests this isn't just about Disney's decline but also about increased global competition.

3. Potential misinformation/bias in the original statement

Several groups have vested interests in how this narrative is presented:

  • Streaming Competitors: Netflix, Amazon Prime, and other streaming services benefit from highlighting Disney+'s struggles.
  • Traditional Media: Legacy media companies might emphasize Disney's streaming losses to validate their own business models.
  • International Studios: Rising animation studios, particularly in Asia, benefit from narratives about Disney's declining animation dominance, as evidenced by Ne Zha 2's success [5].

The reality is more nuanced than simple "decline" - while Disney faces genuine challenges, particularly in streaming profitability [3] and recent animation performance [4], they maintain significant market presence and are actively adapting their strategy.

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