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Fact check: Post Title: What Vtuber has had the weirdest falloff in your opinion? Post Content: Two Vtubers that come to mind for me are [Tateno Ito](https://www.youtube.com/@---tatenoito---9516/featured) and [HiyoAmai](https://www.youtube.com/@amaihiyo/featured) they both were doing well had fun streams Holo Talents visited them then they just seem to have fallen off a cliff at some point now I'm curious on other vtubers you've seen this happen to. Comment Chain: 1. Yuzuki Roa from Nijisanji I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but from memory, basically there was a really bizarre situation in late 2020 where Roa, a decently popular Nijisanji liver, had a dispute with a newer liver, Kingyozaka Meiro, regarding Meiro using a similar regional dialect or verbal tic or something to Roa's. I don't recall exactly what it was, but it was supposedly something specific enough to be very uncommon and/or unlikely to be a coincidence, and I guess Roa saw it as a threat to her "brand" as a streamer? For context I think Roa was one of those stereotypical VTubers who was a borderline shut-in and was vocal about how important her streaming job was to her, so I guess she was very sensitive to anything that could potentially jeopardize that? Anyway, she became anxious about it, apparently to the point of asking Nijisanji management to mediate, and essentially claimed that Meiro was stepping on her toes, so to speak, and asked if they could request her to change that aspect of her speaking. Meiro countered by saying that it was ridiculous to accuse her of copying that way of speaking from Roa, and that that was just how she talked, etc. Things got really weird and messy from there because Nijisanji did not do what they probably should have by setting up a proper mediation between them through the company, instead basically leaving them to hopefully work things out on their own. There are some Discord DM screencaps (not leaked, posted by one of the livers or the Nijisanji account) showing the situation getting out of control as Roa apologized for making things awkward and repeatedly asked to talk to Meiro one-on-one so she could clarify things, while Meiro repeatedly refused, stating that she felt uncomfortable with that unless the company would mediate, which they apparently never offered to do. Eventually, Meiro kinda snapped and pulled some menhera moves of her own, like declaring her resignation from Nijisanji, taking it back and asking to come back, then declaring her resignation AGAIN, and trying to take it back AGAIN, before Nijisanji management decided that enough was enough. They published some statements regarding the termination of Meiro's contract that tried to paint management as an innocent third party in this drama between two VTubers, though IMO it just made them look bad as they essentially admitted to being completely passive and unhelpful in mediating. After that, Roa went radio silent for a while, until she suddenly retweeted a lawyer's tweet in 2021 basically saying that they were working on a defamation case for Roa. Then she went radio silent again for years, with fans hoping for her eventual return, until TODAY when she retweeted another [tweet from that lawyer](https://x.com/ozawakazuhito/status/1854018144345731234?t=Gpc1OePsOMOd0m1AeesYSg&s=19), basically saying that the lawsuit has been formally filed and that the case should begin in earnest shortly. It's crazy that this saga has been ongoing for nearly 4 years now and is still going. EDIT: see /u/FatedMusic's comment below for additional context regarding the conflict! While initially, many took Meiro's side at face value and accused Roa of power harassment and slinging ridiculous accusations, the situation is more complicated than it seems, and Meiro is certainly not an innocent party in this either, to say the least Original Reddit link: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/s/CJx0CwWYAd

Checked on January 11, 2025

1. Summary of the results

The case of Yuzuki Roa represents a complex situation in the VTuber industry that has evolved from a content creator dispute into a legal battle. The incident began in late 2020 with a conflict between Roa and fellow VTuber Kingyozaka Meiro over speaking style similarities [1]. After failed attempts at resolution and Nijisanji management's passive handling of the situation, Meiro's contract was terminated, and Roa went on an extended hiatus that continues to this day, with her last stream occurring in October 2020 [2].

2. Missing context/alternative viewpoints

Several crucial pieces of context are worth noting:

  • The dispute has evolved into a formal legal matter, with Roa filing a civil lawsuit on November 6, 2024, after an unsuccessful criminal case [2]
  • The situation involved multiple attempted resolutions, including direct communication attempts through Discord DMs between the parties, which were officially shared, not leaked [1]
  • Nijisanji management's role was more complex than initially presented, as they actively chose not to mediate the situation, rather than simply being uninvolved [1]

3. Potential misinformation/bias in the original statement

The original post's framing of this as simply a "falloff" significantly understates the complexity of the situation. Several potential biases should be considered:

  • The term "falloff" implies a natural decline in popularity, when in reality, this was a deliberate withdrawal following a specific incident [2]
  • The situation has multiple perspectives, with initial public opinion favoring Meiro, though later information suggested the situation was more nuanced [1]
  • The ongoing legal proceedings suggest this wasn't merely a content creator "falling off" but rather a serious situation with legal implications that has been actively pursued for nearly four years [2]

This case demonstrates how VTuber industry disputes can have long-lasting professional, personal, and legal ramifications beyond simple popularity metrics.

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