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What was the total U.S. national debt at the end of FY 2024 and how has it changed into 2025?
Executive summary
At the end of FY 2024 (September 30, 2024) the U.S. federal debt totaled about $35.5 trillion on a gross basis reported by GAO auditing Treasury’s schedules, while “debt held by the public” — the economists’ preferred measure — was reported near $28.3–$29.0 trillion depending on the source (GAO reports $35.5 trillion total federal debt; AAF reports debt held by the public at $28.3 trillion; the Peterson Foundation/CRFB put DHBP near $29 trillion) [1] [2] [3]. Since then, through 2025, gross national debt has continued rising into the high-$37/38 trillion range as reported by Treasury and analysts in 2025 [4] [5] [6].
1. Two different “debts” — why numbers differ
Observers routinely cite two different figures: gross (total) federal debt that includes intragovernmental holdings (like trust funds) and debt held by the public (market debt owned by outside investors). The Government Accountability Office’s audit cites total federal debt at $35.5 trillion as of Sept. 30, 2024 (gross debt) [1]. By contrast, analysts and think tanks frequently focus on debt held by the public, which the American Action Forum put at $28.3 trillion at the end of FY 2024 and the Peterson/CRFB and PGPF estimate DHBP near $29 trillion — a $2 trillion year‑over‑year rise from 2023 [2] [3] [7]. Always check which series a source is using before comparing figures [1] [2] [3].
2. What happened in FY 2024 that pushed debt higher
FY 2024 recorded a large budget deficit — roughly $1.8 trillion per multiple agencies and watchdogs — driven by higher spending, timing shifts in receipts and payments, and substantially higher interest costs; net interest spending rose sharply, making interest one of the largest budget items in FY 2024 [8] [9] [1]. GAO and CBO note higher interest and spending on mandatory programs as key contributors to the debt rise [1] [9].
3. Where the debt stood by late 2024 vs. 2025 developments
GAO’s audited figure puts total federal debt at $35.5 trillion on Sept. 30, 2024 [1]. By calendar 2025, Treasury data and multiple trackers show gross national debt climbing into the high-$37 to $38 trillion range — for example, CRFB and the Joint Economic Committee reported the gross debt surpassing $38 trillion in 2025 and JEC updates showed debt increasing about $2.18 trillion year‑over‑year into Nov. 2025 [4] [5] [6]. These 2025 increases reflect continued large deficits in FY 2025 and borrowing around the debt‑limit standoffs [10] [11].
4. Short-term drivers in 2025: deficits, interest, and the debt limit
Multiple groups documented that FY 2025 again produced near‑$1.7–$1.8 trillion deficits, while interest costs remained a fast‑rising share of spending; those deficits and elevated interest rates drove gross debt upward through 2025 [12] [10]. The debt limit and Treasury cash-management choices also affected short‑term debt dynamics in 2025, as Congress and Treasury used extraordinary measures and later legislative adjustments to extend the limit [11].
5. Competing framings and implicit agendas in the coverage
Nonpartisan auditors (GAO) report the audited totals and warn about fiscal trends and bookkeeping weaknesses [1] [13]. Budget‑watch groups (CRFB, PGPF, JEC) emphasize the policy implications — some focus on urgency to reduce deficits and debt‑to‑GDP ratios (CRFB/PGPF), while Congressional Republicans’ JEC materials stress the fiscal danger to press for policy changes [5] [4] [3]. Each group selects metrics that best suit its policy message: GAO highlights total federal liabilities and internal control issues [1] [13]; economists often spotlight debt held by the public as the most meaningful economic measure [3].
6. How to read these figures going forward
To track the “true” movement: [14] note whether a source cites gross federal debt or debt held by the public, [15] compare end‑of‑fiscal‑year snapshots (GAO/Treasury) for audited totals, and [16] watch rolling monthly Treasury statements and CBO updates for FY‑to‑FY and intra‑year changes. The sources used here show FY 2024 gross federal debt ≈ $35.5 trillion (GAO) and debt held by the public ≈ $28.3–$29.0 trillion, with debt continuing to rise into 2025 toward ~$38 trillion gross according to Treasury/analysts [1] [2] [3] [4].
Limitations: available sources do not mention a single, universally used “end‑of‑FY 2024” dollar that applies across all debt concepts — you must pick gross vs. public‑held series when quoting [1] [2] [3].