What did Jeffrey Epstein say about Donald Trump’s silence, and in what context were those remarks made?

Checked on January 9, 2026
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Executive summary

Jeffrey Epstein’s remarks about Donald Trump—chiefly that Trump was “charming, in a devious way,” “believes his own bulls---,” and suffered “delusions of grandiosity”—were captured on tapes Epstein gave to journalist Michael Wolff and have surfaced as part of reporting and released transcripts tied to Wolff’s work and congressional document dumps [1] [2]. Those comments were made in conversational interviews (the “Epstein tapes”) used as source material for books and reporting, and their release has fed partisan arguments about what the records do and do not prove [1] [3] [4].

1. The words on tape: Epstein’s portrait of Trump

In recordings transcribed and described by Michael Wolff and subsequently released to reporters and congressional investigators, Epstein described Trump in psychological and colloquial terms—“charming,” “in a devious way,” “self-deprecating,” “not vulgar,” “funny,” and someone who “believes his own bulls---” and has “delusions of grandiosity,” language Wolff cites when recounting Epstein’s characterization of Trump [1]. Those phrases are presented not as legal accusations about specific conduct but as Epstein’s personal appraisal of Trump’s personality and comportment during years when the two socialized, according to Wolff’s tapes [1].

2. The context: Wolff interviews, book reporting and document releases

The lines came from Epstein’s recorded conversations with Michael Wolff, who used Epstein as a source while researching books and later publicized portions of the tapes and emails; Wolff has said he recorded many hours with Epstein and then released material tied to his reporting on Trump and Epstein [2] [1]. Those taped impressions were published alongside a much larger wave of documents and photographs from Epstein’s estate released by congressional committees and the Department of Justice, which together created the broader context in which Epstein’s off‑hand psychological assessments were newly amplified [3] [5].

3. How the remarks were received and contested

When parts of the Epstein material referencing Trump became public, the reaction split along predictable lines: Wolff and some reporters argued the tapes offered “unusual insight” into the friendship and power dynamics between Epstein and Trump [1], while Trump’s camp and allies dismissed the releases as “false smears,” election interference, or unverified claims, and pointed to Trump’s denials that any wrongdoing occurred and to assertions that Trump had barred Epstein from Mar‑a‑Lago decades earlier [1] [3] [4]. The Department of Justice warned that some publicly released Epstein documents contained unverified or “untrue and sensationalist claims” about the president, cautioning readers about the evidentiary value of certain items in the dumps [4].

4. What the tapes do—and do not—establish

The Wolff tapes establish only that Epstein privately offered an opinionated and often dismissive psychological sketch of Trump, not that Epstein provided incontrovertible factual proof of specific criminal acts by Trump; Wolff’s material is source testimony and conversational color, and major outlets and investigators have treated the tapes as part of a mosaic of evidence rather than standalone proof [1] [2]. At the same time, the tapes sit amid a larger trove of emails, photos and flight logs the DOJ and congressional committees have released that reference interactions between Epstein and Trump and have prompted renewed questions about the scope and nature of their association—questions the White House contests and that different news organizations have handled with varying levels of prominence [6] [5] [3].

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