In what interview or talk did Charlie Kirk discuss marital consent and what was his exact wording?
Executive summary
Charlie Kirk has been quoted discussing the limits and reversal of sexual consent in at least one recorded exchange and has separately urged cultural prescriptions about marriage and submission; the most-cited phrasings are “it was consensual and then it wasn’t consensual” (reported in a contemporaneous-sounding account) and “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge” (reported by Media Matters), but available publicly cited sources are not fully consistent about the original venue and exact transcripting of those lines [1] [2] [3].
1. What the reporting shows about the consent comment
Multiple downstream accounts attribute to Kirk a remark summarizing an argument that some sexual encounters move from consensual to non-consensual when alcohol is involved, captured in the phrasing “it was consensual and then it wasn’t consensual.” That specific wording appears in a 2025 Medium piece that recounts a debate-style exchange in which a woman invoked statistics about sexual assault and Kirk replied that alcohol creates a “murky grey area” and used the quoted line as his characterization of why some assaults aren't reported [1]. The Medium article is explicit in its narration and quotes the phrase, but it is a secondary source that frames the exchange as part of a larger critique of Kirk’s views on consent [1].
2. The documented primary source availability and limits
A government-hosted transcript identified as “Transcribed Interview of Charlie Kirk, (May 24, 2022)” is listed in the provided material [3], and that record is the clearest pointer to a primary, dated interview. The provided summary metadata confirms the transcript exists on the U.S. Government Publishing Office site [3], but the excerpts provided to this report do not include verbatim lines from that transcript transcribed here. Because the exact quoted language for the consent exchange is present in the Medium account [1] but the available GovInfo index citation [3] lacks a presented verbatim excerpt in the supplied dataset, a cautious conclusion is that the “it was consensual and then it wasn’t consensual” line is commonly attributed to Kirk in later reporting, while direct verification in the posted government transcript requires consulting [3]’s full text.
3. The separate “submit to your husband” remark and its provenance
A clearly attributed one-liner — “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.” — is reported by Media Matters as something Kirk told or recommended to public figure Taylor Swift in one of his talks or commentaries [2]. Media Matters quotes the line directly and situates it amid a wider critique of Kirk’s public statements about marriage and childbearing, presenting it as part of a pattern of prescriptive advice aimed at women [2]. The item is reported as a direct quote by Media Matters [2], but the supplied dataset does not include an original audio or transcript source for that exact sentence beyond the Media Matters report itself.
4. Competing readings, context, and why precision matters
The tension in the record is between secondary outlets that quote Kirk’s phrasing and a primary-catalogued transcript whose contents have not been provided verbatim here; that creates two responsible caveats: first, the precise wording and conversational context for the consent remark is drawn to this file by a later retelling [1] rather than the direct transcript excerpt provided; second, the “submit” line is quoted in media criticism [2] but likewise needs direct consultation of the original video or transcript for full context. Both lines are used by critics to illustrate broader arguments about Kirk’s views on gender, consent and domestic roles, and both outlets carrying the quotes have clear editorial perspectives—Medium’s Fourth Wave piece frames the quote as evidence of danger [1] and Media Matters frames the “submit” comment as part of a conservative campaign against female autonomy [2].
5. Bottom line
The most-cited exact phrasings in public reporting are “it was consensual and then it wasn’t consensual” (reported in a 2025 Medium piece recounting an exchange attributed to Kirk) and “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge” (reported by Media Matters) [1] [2]. There is an official, dated transcript entry for a May 24, 2022 interview with Kirk on the Government Publishing Office site [3], but the supplied materials here do not include verbatim confirmations from that primary transcript of the quoted lines; verifying the utterance in original audio or the complete GovInfo transcript is the next step to remove ambiguity [3].