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Fact check: Did trump really call military members suckers and losers?

Checked on May 8, 2025

1. Summary of the results

The allegation that Trump called military members "suckers" and "losers" stems from a 2020 The Atlantic article, which cited anonymous sources regarding incidents during a 2018 Paris trip [1]. While multiple officials, including former Chief of Staff John Kelly, have supported these claims [2], no definitive audio, video, or documentary evidence has been produced to conclusively prove the allegations [1]. The specific allegations include Trump saying "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers" and referring to Marines who died at Belleau Wood as "suckers" [2].

2. Missing context/alternative viewpoints

Several important contextual elements need to be considered:

  • Trump and his administration have consistently denied these allegations [1]
  • Key Trump administration officials like Alyssa Farah Griffin have explicitly denied the claims [3]
  • The allegations fit into a broader pattern of Trump's relationship with the military, as documented by multiple military and administration officials [2]
  • While Biden has repeated these allegations, they remain contested [3]
  • The original reporting relied heavily on anonymous sources [3]

3. Potential misinformation/bias in the original statement

The original question oversimplifies a complex situation where:

  • Political motivations: Both sides have strong incentives to either promote or deny these claims
  • Democrats and Biden benefit from promoting these allegations to diminish Trump's support among military voters [3]
  • Trump and his allies benefit from denying the claims to maintain military support
  • Media perspective: The Atlantic's reliance on anonymous sources, while common in journalism, has made the claims harder to verify independently [3]
  • Military leadership perspective: The split between military leaders like John Kelly supporting the claims and other administration officials denying them suggests a complex internal dynamic within the Trump administration [2] [3]
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