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Fact check: Did trump really call military members suckers and losers?
1. Summary of the results
The allegation that Trump called military members "suckers" and "losers" stems from a 2020 The Atlantic article, which cited anonymous sources regarding incidents during a 2018 Paris trip [1]. While multiple officials, including former Chief of Staff John Kelly, have supported these claims [2], no definitive audio, video, or documentary evidence has been produced to conclusively prove the allegations [1]. The specific allegations include Trump saying "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers" and referring to Marines who died at Belleau Wood as "suckers" [2].
2. Missing context/alternative viewpoints
Several important contextual elements need to be considered:
- Trump and his administration have consistently denied these allegations [1]
- Key Trump administration officials like Alyssa Farah Griffin have explicitly denied the claims [3]
- The allegations fit into a broader pattern of Trump's relationship with the military, as documented by multiple military and administration officials [2]
- While Biden has repeated these allegations, they remain contested [3]
- The original reporting relied heavily on anonymous sources [3]
3. Potential misinformation/bias in the original statement
The original question oversimplifies a complex situation where:
- Political motivations: Both sides have strong incentives to either promote or deny these claims
- Democrats and Biden benefit from promoting these allegations to diminish Trump's support among military voters [3]
- Trump and his allies benefit from denying the claims to maintain military support
- Media perspective: The Atlantic's reliance on anonymous sources, while common in journalism, has made the claims harder to verify independently [3]
- Military leadership perspective: The split between military leaders like John Kelly supporting the claims and other administration officials denying them suggests a complex internal dynamic within the Trump administration [2] [3]